Wednesday, August 5, 2015

Draco (Part Three: Impersonation)


Over time,  many benevolent ETs have traveled to earth looking to play the role of teacher.

When the Draco arrived and began their plans during the first civilization they created, one of technological marvel, comfort and entertainment, not all of the post-Atlantis humans wanted to live with the Draco.  They retreated to isolated areas and began small tribes or communities doing their best to survive.

This was the first period relevant to our now, in which benevolent ETs visited.


The second time was just after the Draco war that destroyed their marvel of a city when they were attempting to establish a new structure.  Several groups of ETs arrived attempting to give humans knowledge of their world so they could grow naturally.

Of course this went against the Draco agenda.

The Draco were preoccupied with their own work and would not notice or care about these occurrences.   When they became ready, they would then step in and push out the benevolent visitors and take over the area.

From there they will rewrite everything.  Take on the image of the benevolent visitor and teacher, to teach a modified version of the truth entrusted by the beings they pushed out.


The second occurrence of this process would be in the area we know as Egypt.  Ancient Egyptian teachings.  The reason why there are so many stories and feelings and messages and writings about ancient Egypt is many many amazing things were going on, and then.. The Draco came in and reenacted them all.  If you were to read it all properly in a book, you would get to the middle chapter and more or less find yourself back at the beginning.  Reading the same events, this time staged and perverted, all over again.


Going back to the earlier period is where they accomplished this deception for the first time.

A feline race who had arrived.   Lion like, and brilliant.  The daughter of their king will be the example we use. She was called Sekhmet.

Her love for humanity was unrivaled and she taught them everything the Draco would eventually deny.  All the knowledge of soul.

She taught how to travel through all levels and reconnect the knowledge gained while in this physical form to the greatest potential.  She taught to embrace the spirit of the earth to gain the strength of its potential.

Clearly the Draco were also not impressed and eventually attacked this feline race, overthrowing them.   They abandoned earth, all but a few.  Sekhmet stayed. As did some others.

She allowed herself to die as to not abandon humanity.  Not abandon the Earth (Her).  She died fighting, falling, crawling to a tree and holding it.

The Draco used her as the model for all of their martyrs dying for humans moving forward.

They impersonated her as if she had reincarnated.  Convinced the lingering followers of this passed teacher that she had returned in a new body.  She would then continue her teachings, but with a twisted agenda.

Even during the reboot of the later Egyptian period, they used the image as Sekhmet again, revisiting her teachings in their perverse form.

This has happened many times leading the Draco to develop religions and perfect their compartmentalized structures.  They followed this as it evolved and developed adjusting their game to suit the attempts of outside sources to enlighten some humans as to a bigger picture.   Up until they stopped worrying about this themselves 200yrs ago approximately, they had done an excellent job of distorting everything.

The Parents continued in their footsteps but with much different tactics.  This has all been supported by Archons and AI along with many malevolent ETs.

This writer says it all the time.. Names, names, names.   This is how it happens.

It's designed to confuse, but more importantly, encourage disagreement and competition.  Let's stop allowing this to happen.  The lessons, the concepts and teachings are what matter.  Details of who ruled when and did what and killed who or mothered whichever "God", does not matter.

What matters is what we do moving forward.

You've learned countless myths and legends and ancient teachings and writings over the years collectively between you.  There is none that are wholly true.  They all carry a message.  Absorb this, and set aside (don't throw away) the rest.

Over the next few years this world will rediscover many places you've been and learned about.  Memories will return.  Just remember, a lot has happened.

The departure of the Draco does not mean much.  The damage is done.  Real problems still exist.  There is a great deal of work for humanity to do.

You can do it, though.  Look how very far you've already come.

Everything before and during  Atlantis they turned into fiction, myth or legend.  Fairy tales. Stories.

Their time is over. Time for us to remember, rewrite and move forward.


79 comments:

  1. A brilliant ray of hope. The question many of us will be asking is "How do we remember?"
    "What are the physical, practical, techniques we can use to remember?" "What are expected amounts of time that a daily practitioner can expect to recover lost goals and memories?"

    There are many techniques given on remembrance. I have used many of them and only gained a fleeting few memories of my past incarnations, experiences, and connection to higher self.

    Many hidden memories haunt me still. I want them back, and am willing to release and renounce the old contracts to do so. It just seems that all that I have done in renunciation hasn't worked......yet.

    ~S

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    1. Sometimes the effects can be difficult to see. Don't sell your efforts short. We are part of a collective so all we as individuals can do is "our best".

      Some memories will not benefit you. Those you (as a soul) may choose to NOT remember. What is of value will come with constant practice as it's required. No expectation. Open and honest questioning.

      With respect,

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    2. I agree. Some memories are not useful to the current NOW.

      The daily practice continues. I can give great credit to the positive changes in my life due the the following recordings and actions:

      The work of Alaje777 has been monumental.
      Regular Chakra work via a guided meditation.
      Daily exercise is KEY.
      Daily time in Nature, just being open to the trees, and Her.
      Renouncing my old (forgotten) contracts via the works of Cobra and Isis.
      The works of Robert Monroe and the Hemi-Sync process.

      Thanks again, Ruiner.

      ~S

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    3. Thank you for sharing these with other readers.

      With respect,

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    4. Yeh, thx anon, and don't forget diet! :-)

      Thx Dear Ruiner,
      Is Sekhmet coming back at all? She sounds beautiful. I have a special place in my heart for Aslan the Lion (CS Lewis Narnia series) and cannot wait to run my fingers through his mane again. ;-)
      With mindfulness,
      RG

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  2. ¤¤¤ 1 of 3

    With all due respect...

    Why the deliberate cryptic speak when none is needed. You are anonymous on Ruiner blog www.theruiner777.blogspot. So I don't understand your vagueness or hesitation in giving key facts and details. The tide has certainly shifted. Even comedians on the mainstream circuit have come out mocking the Illuminati clumsy attempts to recruit them into their demonic fold. Look no further then Dave Chappell, Katt Williams and others who have stepped to the plate with the courage to expose thier perverted mind, body and currency control system. Go to Youtube and see the interview. It is not fake and they are still AWAKE and ALIVE and earning a LIVING

    All industrial, financial institutions, western religious orders and governments appear at the highest level to have an indoctrination of CONCENT to this obsolete Babylonian Slave Driving Techniques nonsense. And it has been thoroughly exposed to mental exhaustion and bewilderment. Again, why the fog of unclarity in your appearant outing of THEM when so many groups and individuals have already exposed this entrapment?

    Where exactly does your leaneage derive from on the Annunaki family tree if at all possible?

    Apsu, Tiamat dragon gueen, Lahmu, Lahamu, Anshar, Kishar, Anu, Damkina, Marduk, Nergal, Qayin, Seth, Ninlil, Nergal, Ishkur or Nergal etc?

    ¤¤¤ continued

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    1. Ok you have now posted this three part comment on two other blogs, and emailed it all to this writer from two different email accounts. Please stop spamming.

      With respect,

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    With respect you have not given a solid reply. Sorry to put you on the spot. I have no fear. My people and energy is eternal and infinite.

    The 26,000 year progression of the Equinox where this entire Solar System is entering a new enlightenment on a higher vibration is welcoming. Thank gawd because we sentient beings have had enough. No more 'soon soon this that or the other will occur so prepare be patient' If you have real information to usher this along than by all means reveal it.

    We all are also aware of the Cassiopaean channeled by scientific mystic, Laura Knight-Jadczyk. The Wind Makers series with Dr. Neruda

    As far as Jupiter Ascending and other Hollywood like esoteric, cabel and Illuminati revelations, yes how relevant. But interesting deliberately release at this particular time? How many narratives or false narratives can the people digest before all of Earth's inhabitants experience complete mind control, enslavement methods and the great culling. Plus I have not read on the Ruiner blog anything of solid substance with concrete confessions with times and dates just vague analysis. You are already ghost aka anonymous, safe from harm unless you yourself revealed who you really are to OTHERs outside of this blog post. So for your apparent love for human life give details. Please if you are seeking humanities salvation, awakening and evolution then STOP taking people on an elaborate ET/Earth villians si fi roller coaster cloak and dagger ride of vagueness and cut to the chase on the specific details of the 13 families, Cabel, Illuminati, Secret Space Programs and Clone Centre Programs etc. matters. Just the meat and potatoes on clearing up any disinformation, providing strategic solutions on how to get rid of THEM!

    fin on this matter.

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    1. With respect, you have indeed received your answer. On another blog and in two different emails to two different email addresses. If that response is not suitable for you, this writer suggests you move on.

      With respect,

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    2. Curious to read the response. Can we get a link share for the other blog?

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    3. See the comment section on the "Technology" blog post.

      To summarize: This blog is not written for the public. It is not disclosing information to anyone. There is not meant to be "anything new" here or any solid facts/data.

      This blog has a purpose and nothing in those above comments is part of the purpose.

      With respect,

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  4. Blog is illuminating. Who can you reveaBlog is illuminating. Who can you reveal? Names are important. What 'turn keys' can you offer to move this true WAVE foward? Are you or are you not interested in accelerating this awakening? Just one or two significant keys to really make an effective change - in current time - not stories of past ET domination. 

    Pretend I'm the 'Man from Uncle' or 'Mission Impossible' for the PEOPLE, what assignment or agenda would you offer since you are in the proverbial inner circle? I have no fear. The current affairs of the Cabel, Vatican, Crown Temple, DC and Illuminati's treachery are being exposed onthe regular in every sector of society. Look no further then on line to social media and the like. So what is your angle? To give words of wisdom, feel good psalms, ancient tales mix with prose to comfort us? I'm confused sir. Please advise if you are genuine. I have been as polite as possible. Respect no fear. Ll? Names are important. What 'turn keys' can you offer to move this true WAVE foward? Are you or are you not interested in accelerating this awakening? Just one or two significant keys to really make an effective change - in current time - not stories of past ET domination. 

    Pretend I'm the 'Man from Uncle' or 'Mission Impossible' for the PEOPLE, what assignment or agenda would you offer since you are in the proverbial inner circle? I have no fear. The current affairs of the Cabel, Vatican, Crown Temple, DC and Illuminati's treachery are being exposed onthe regular in every sector of society. Look no further then on line to social media and the like. So what is your angle? To give words of wisdom, feel good psalms, ancient tales mix with prose to comfort us? I'm confused sir. Please advise if you are genuine. I have been as polite as possible. And before say it perhaps this not the blog for me. Respect and no fear. L

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    1. It's not a matter of what you can handle. This writers intentions have not included the general public. They include the intended audience. This blog will end, and at that point this writer may adjust for others, like yourself.

      Please read the blog titled "The is Not Disclosure".

      With respect,



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  5. Thank you for this post, as an African American in general it is hard to find information on my past prior to slavery let alone ancient history. It is often said that the elites biggest secret to conceal is know who we are. That statement could not be more true it seems in my community. As it relates to ancient Egypt, how can one discern if any or all are related to that of my own race. I understand your purpose is not to provide all the answers but a good point in the right direction would be helpful.

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    1. There is no sure answer for this, sorry, that this writer could give. Trust yourself to KNOW, is this writers best advice.

      With respect,

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  6. Thank you for bringing perspective and context to the story of Sekmeht.

    Was she also very tall by today's modern human standards?

    in grace,
    e

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    1. Slightly taller, yes.

      With respect,

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    2. I remember coming across information that pointed out how so many references and faces were removed from some of the old temples were these Hathor. I often felt that these faces looked feline.

      Is the feline race related to a race referred as the Hathor?

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    3. Close, Hathor resemble a different but also feline, race.

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  7. I have read all of your post and unfortunately agree, with the a slight doubtful notion, that conjecture is at play.

    Thanks to contributions from insiders and my own research, I know what I'm talking about. We can simply read in-between the lines and just feel the dismissive tone in the Ruiner's response to particular post replys. Classic passive aggressive defensiveness from our new age friend with a touch of snobbery. I'll pass. Much entertainment though and uplifting to some degree.

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    1. It cannot be "classic" anything since this writer is not writing to you ;)

      You "pass" which actually works out well for this writer.

      With respect,

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  8. Dear Ruiner, this is off topic, but please provide your opinion. It's very hard to wake my S.O. when all she believe is the current society/matrix as is (career, finance, house, car, kids..etc). My question is that will "The Wave" wake her and other soul like her? It's very hard to go within to prepare for the spiritual journey when your love is still asleep and laugh at you when you shared information about the deception matrix. Should i leave her like Buddha did or just step back and take one step at a time?

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    1. This writer does not feel comfortable advising on your relationship. What he will say is, he understands 100%. Many relationships around this writer have ended for this reason. With love, this can be overlooked. If you cannot let it go or overlook it, trust your heart.

      The wave will not wake anyone up as a default. It is possible it will for some, but not for everyone so that cannot be relied upon.

      With respect,

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    2. Part of growing as a person is to be able to accept others as they are. Maybe your SO is there to help you grow.

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    3. This advice from a fellow reader is very much worth considering in the opinion of this writer.

      Thank you.

      With respect,

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  9. Ruiner: "Their time is over. Time for us to remember, rewrite and move forward."

    Yes. In total neutrality and complete Sovereignty of Our Free Will like a Complete Being, not as slaves.

    ~ Stella Maris

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  10. Dear Ruiner, Thank you for sharing your knowledge and the (fictional) stories of old. Yes we are frustrated when we find out about how deep this control goes. This is what I understand from reading this blog (please feel free to correct) For those who want The Ruiner to name names and be specific about information and are dissatified , go back and read his intention and purpose. My understanding is that this blog is for those who are indoctrinated into the cult system. This blog is to help them make sense of lack of information and or lies given to them due the compartmentalization of the organization. The rest of us must understand and just read the information and integrate what is being said. The Ruiner has been gracious to answer our questions. He has been honest which I feel is more valuable than naming certain names or giving certain information of ongoing operations. All will come out in time anyway.

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    1. You have understood well. Another part of what the intention is, is to actually deflate the importance of smaller details for the intended audience, something this writer hopes is picked up by all. Names etc are details that matter less than the concepts and results, especially for the intended audience, but for everyone. The overlapping and contradicting names "out there" cause unnecessary disputes and conflict. Also, a great deal of wasted energy.

      Honest this writer has been, and always will be.

      Thank you.

      With respect,

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    2. We need to know macro-trends so we can avoid repeating past mistakes. But I agree we shouldn't overly obsess on details. There are trees to plant and water to filter. Move forward. If anyone wants a fuller picture, Biblioteca Pleyades is better than most. Dates become even more irrelevant when there are multiple shifting timelines involved.

      So... What conditions need to come about before Felines and other 'benevolents' are able to interact more fully down here, even casually, as holosuited humans?

      Are the Parents able to continue to enforce a quarantine? And to what extent is this blockade real, or illusory? I have asked this question in other ways before.

      I was trained to be self-reliant, but you can't help wonder.

      Peace to all reading this.

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    3. The blockade as you're calling it, is an illusion and a well crafted story propagated by many.

      This writer is unsure what those conditions would have to be. We shall see.

      With love and respect,

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    4. I have been slowly coming to the conclusion that this blockade is at least partially illusory. Many more aspects of this question to explore.

      Thanks.

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  11. Dear The Ruiner,

    Please share some of the teachings from Sekhmet . . .

    Is it possible to "connect" to her at this time for purposes of learning the true knowledge (unperverted)?

    May you be in good health always!

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    1. Perhaps one day. This blog is simply not that place for that.

      This writer is unsure whether you can connect with her. She is currently incarnated on this planet, doing something different with her time here. (Nothing malevolent in case that impression is gleaned from this response)

      With respect,

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    2. Thank you, I understand.

      But . . . just one tidbit please, just one...(begging here). To keep the few of us going you know and give us a tiny glimpse of that enlightened mind.

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    3. You are able to connect to all that is, all that has ever been and to become all that ever will be.

      With love and respect,

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    4. You can connect with Sekhmet, or anyone on the other planes, by going deep inside the heart chakra and intending to meet them in the inner temple, or where-ever in infinity you choose.

      The Kingdom of heaven is within.

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    5. Dear Ruiner,

      Does She knows in this present life who She really is? Is She conscious?

      How you know about Her? Have you meet Her already, know where She is?

      Gratitude for your sharing.

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    6. We have met in many of her lifetimes, including this one. She has been remembering, and starting to believe.

      With respect,

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    7. Ruiner, sorry if I'm insisting...

      How do you meet Her? How you recognize Her?
      Did you know already where She is or you just find and recognize on Her who She truly is?

      Once again, gratitude for your availability to answer.

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    8. It was luck, or synchronicity. This writer can never forget her energy.

      With respect,

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    9. You Love Her?

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    10. She has been a dear friend for longer than can be mentioned. Of course.

      With respect,

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    11. Does She knows what you know about her?

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    12. Does She loves you also?

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    13. Where the words are not sufficient,

      She loves you, indeed.
      And if in any way you doubt about this, just pay attention and listen.

      Feel the wind, the rain, the sun and the moon, the starts and the way they moves. Listen the animals of the forest. From the little ones to the biggest, the rabbit and the fox, the snake and the eagle. They are Cycles of Life complementing each other.

      As the elements, all these wild creatures knows this song and calls.
      The Cycle of Life depends of this.

      This is how Mother Nature reveals Her savage and passionate body.
      This is how She loves and caresses you also.

      You live in Her most sacred space.
      You are in Her heart.

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    14. Smiles.. talk about circling the hot porridge like a cat! What exactly is your relation to her ?.. this was an interesting turn of the bend :)

      In resonance with you all.

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    15. Upon reading her name I felt a twinge in my spirit, as if I had just heard the bame of a dear friend I haven't seen in a long time. This conversation has given me a strange sense of deep nastalgia/peace/enjoyment" as if I've known both of you at one time.

      Tbh, I'm not sure what to make of it, but I'm feeling a deep longing to reconnect with old friends again. I just can't seem to remember who those old friends are... I just feel love for them (you two).

      This is so strange to me...

      In any case, I dont know who either of you are today, but I love ya brother! Send her my love too, I suppose. Haha

      (I'm quite confused with this) hahahaha

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    16. As I've been reading your blog for the past few days, I've had a feeling that I know you somehow, "way back" at some point.

      After seeing the name of sekhmet, an image flashed before my eyes and I suddenly felt a deep longing to see her again, as if we have met. Suddenly I was overcome with a deep feeling of nastalgia/love/fondness/joy and a feeling of missing a dear friend that you haven't seen for many years. Not only did I feel this for her, but for you as well.

      Tbh, this feeling is incredibly confusing. I dont know what to make of it.

      I feel like I need to tell you, from a well deep in my soul, that I miss you and love you like a brother. The same goes to her in a sisterly fashion. Please pass that on to her.

      I honestly can't explain any momore than what I said. I don't know where that feeling comes from and I don't know either of you, nor you-me, as far as I know...

      Either way... I'm laughing cuz this is so strange, but again, I love and miss you both!

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  12. Thank you, Ruiner. I am remembering. I wake up with more clarity every day since I started reading your blog about two weeks ago. Please don't stop on account of some obnoxious comments; I know you won't.

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    1. This writer had the option to not read, post, or respond to any comments like those you mentioned. Nothing to worry about. :)

      The beauty of being honest and not having an agenda, is not having to worry about the opinions of others.

      This will end, and that will be the choice of the writer alone.

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  13. That hit home. Tears here ...

    With love and deepest gratitude, always

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  14. Ruiner, as i read this blog about the Feline race and Sekhmet it brought tears to my eyes. I know that you wrote the Truth here about Sekhmet, i felt it in my Soul and Heart.


    The Hare Krishna books also depict a half man half lion called Lord Nrsimhadeva on May 2015 calender. Could be someone also from this feline race who went to India??

    They also have picture with Lord Krishna and half man and half bird species on the July 2015 calender.

    Thank you , for being one of the voices of Truth...

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    1. There has been more than one feline race here, and these races have spread out to different locations, including India.

      With respect,

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  15. The Ruiner, almost all your writings have an impression of "déjà-vu" to me. In fact, it complete the reading I did a couple years ago of a series of books called "The GIRKU Chronicles" from Anton Parks. I was blown away when I first read those books and today, you just confirm to me that what Anton Parks found decrypting those Sumerian Tablets, is REALLY close to the truth. I appreciate what you do a lot.

    With love and respect, from a french Canadian ( names, names...)

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  16. Three things cannot stay hidden for long, the sun, the moon, the truth. the ruiner thank you for giving this gold as words

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  17. When you say that the 'Draco' have left or are leaving/will be leaving, I trust that you are aware that those hybrid collectives of the moon and sea will remain. They consider themselves indigenous despite their shared genetic origin. Nu and Miazolomn ..are these names familiar to you? Do not feel obligated to publish this comment if these details run counter to your agenda. Respect to you, Ruiner.

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    1. This writer has no agenda.

      Those you mention are not the same type (or an type) of threat to humanity.

      With respect,

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    2. Thank you, Ruiner. I hope for you the very best.

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  18. Is the Sphinx originally built in honour of Sekhmet? They say that the Sphinx originally had a feline face and later was changed to a human face. What do you think?

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    1. It has under gone more than one facelift. Not Sekhmet though, no.

      With respect,

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    2. Canine not Feline would be one of the "facelifts"

      With Great Love,
      Woman of endless physical forms infinite incarnations, never abandoning

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  19. Thank you, Ruiner, for your posts. I recently found you through Jean Haines site and this is my first comment. I am learning so much. I'm wondering if those of us on Earth that adore felines have a connection to the feline race. I know people who hate cats, and I generally don't care for these folks. They also seem to have a coldness towards my favorite breed of canine, which is the so-called pit bull mix. Both cats and pits are misunderstood by so many people. I hear negative things about Sirius, so I just wonder where humans such as I fit into this, with my love of felines and pits. I hope this isn't a stupid question, but I'm curious. Thank you for your answer.

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    1. Perhaps a soul connection or memory. Or it could be explained as simply as you are a loving person. :)

      With respect,

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  20. of all alien races the feline race is one I would dearly like to meet. People told me I may have a connection to them. Wish it was possible in this lifetime.
    Margarita.

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  21. sirius are canine or feline? are scorpios incarnated souls from sirius? who can destroy draco in terms of power?

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    1. Both and others. Many differs beings come from near Sirius.

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  22. "[...] countless myths and legends and ancient teachings and writings over the years ... carry a message. [D]on't throw [them] away ..."

    “How should we be able to forget those ancient myths that are at the beginning of all peoples, the myths about dragons that at the last moment turn into princesses; perhaps all the dragons of our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us once beautiful and brave. Perhaps everything terrible is in its deepest being something helpless that wants help from us." (Rainer Maria Wilke)

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  23. Holy crap! Are you telling me this is for reals?
    http://www.flickriver.com/photos/36122674@N06/5564490470/

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    1. LOL!!! Thanks for that. :)

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  24. I totally relate to the Sekhmet energy complex and the Feline race. That part rings totally true to me.

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  25. Hi Ruiner.

    1.Were you also a feline during times of Sekhmet oh Earth?

    2. Was king Anu here on Earth all these 13,000 (or 26,000) years or coming and going? Did he come last time around 2012?

    3. Is their main base for royals underground in Africa?

    Thanks. I love your blog.

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    1. 1) No I was not.

      2) He comes and goes as he pleases.

      3) Draco royals, yes.

      Happy you've enjoyed it :)

      With respect,

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  26. Although you haven't mentioned anything about the great spiritual teachers such as Buddha or Jesus but how do they fit into all that has been happening over the centuries. I feel they were sent here to show us our own power and truth and yet, especially with Jesus, the message is distorted. Was Jesus's immaculate birth a product advanced technology or do you see that as just a myth?

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    1. The concept to consider in that regard is the fact that the "story" surrounding both men was written, not by them, and after they had already left here. ;)

      With love and respect,

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